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Studio Panel · Week 2 · The First In-Season Poll
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B1G Bottom Line
  • WK 1 WISCONSIN 38, NOTRE DAME 10 · Irish drop out of the Top 25
  • POLL MIAMI to No. 1, up five · Ohio State 2 · Oregon 3 · Georgia 4 · Indiana 5
  • POLL LOUISVILLE up ten to #14 after 39-17 over Ole Miss · Rebels fall nine to #18
  • B1G MICHIGAN 17, WESTERN MICHIGAN 9 · Wolverines No. 12
  • B1G USC 2-0, the only league team with two · Illinois and Purdue the only 0-1
  • POW National offense — Oklahoma QB John Mateer, 9 total TD (2 pass, 7 rush), 203 rushing
  • POW National defense — Northwestern S Adrian Maddox, 2 INT, 2 pick sixes · also B1G defensive
  • POW B1G offense — UCLA QB Nico Iamaleava
  • WK 1 FLORIDA 42, FAU 39 · Owls led by multiple scores in the fourth in The Swamp
  • MSU Michigan State 56, Grambling State 7 · 618 yards, 18 TFL, one penalty
  • WK 3 Michigan State at Notre Dame in two weeks · the Irish are unranked
FOX Sports · Big Ten Now · Full Panel Transcript

‘Out Of The Poll

Host: Renee Castellano Urban Meyer Joel Klatt Brady Quinn Runtime 46:18 Dramatization
COLD OPEN. The desk is already hot when the light comes up, mid-argument, no music. Quinn has a stat sheet folded lengthwise and he is tapping it against the desk. Meyer is leaned back with his arms crossed and has clearly been waiting all week. Castellano lets it run three seconds longer than she is supposed to.
Segment One · The Team That Fell Out
Live · Studio B
Week 1
Wisconsin 38, Notre Dame 10 — Irish drop out of the Top 25
Renee CastellanoHost

Good morning. Two weeks ago Notre Dame was third in the country. This morning Notre Dame is not in the Top 25 at all. Miami got them for forty-two to six and then unranked Wisconsin got them for thirty-eight to ten, and the voters have finished with them. Coach.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

It's over. That's my whole thing this week. It's over, they're not going to fix it in October, and everybody can stop waiting for the week they wake up.

Renee CastellanoHost

It is September.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

I'm aware what month it is.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

You said the same sentence in twenty nineteen about a team that made the playoff.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Different team.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

It was the same sentence.

Renee CastellanoHost

Brady, go.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

I'm going to be straight with everybody. Yes, I played there. Yes, I care about that program. And no, this isn't fine. Thirty-eight to ten at home to a Wisconsin team that isn't ranked, a week after the Miami thing. They have been physically handled two weeks in a row now.

And look, I've been in a building the week after. When I was there we lost games like that and I can tell you what Monday feels like. It's very quiet and everybody's polite and nothing is actually being said. And you either get through it or you don't, and you find that out in about ten days.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Ten days is a long time to wait to find out something everybody already knows.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

Then say what you know.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

They're not tough. I watched two games. They're not tough. That's it, that's the whole scouting report, I don't have a chart for it.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

You don't have a chart for anything.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Never needed one.

Renee CastellanoHost

Joel, do the football.

Joel KlattAnalyst

There's a specific thing happening here and it's structural. It's personnel, and it's leverage at the point of attack.

Both games, they're losing the interior of both lines. Miami did it, Wisconsin did it, and Wisconsin did it with less talent than Miami has, which is the part that should scare that building. When your interior gets displaced, the entire design of the offense stops mattering. Your run game is a coin flip, your protection clock shrinks, and then the quarterback is playing a completely different sport than the one the play was drawn for.

And Wisconsin didn't do anything exotic. They lined up in the same personnel group over and over and dared them to stop it. That's a very old-fashioned way to beat somebody and it worked twice in a row.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

That I agree with. Every word of that I agree with.

Joel KlattAnalyst

The other thing is what falling out of the poll actually does to them. They play a schedule that was built when they were a top-five team. Every one of those opponents now gets to circle them, and none of those wins put them back where they were. That's an awful spot to be in and it's the middle of September.

Renee CastellanoHost

They have Michigan State in two weeks.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Yeah, that'll fix it.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

Say what you mean.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

I said it.

“They're not tough. I watched two games. They're not tough. That's the whole scouting report.”
Urban Meyer · Big Ten Now
Segment Two · The First Real Top 25
Graphic · Top 25
New No. 1
Miami up five · Louisville up ten · Ole Miss down nine
Renee CastellanoHost

The first in-season poll. Miami is number one, up five. Ohio State two, Oregon three, Georgia four, Indiana five, Texas six, Texas A and M seven, Oklahoma eight, LSU nine, BYU ten. Alabama eleven, Michigan twelve, USC thirteen. Louisville jumps ten spots to fourteen after beating Ole Miss thirty-nine to seventeen, and Ole Miss drops nine to eighteen. Notre Dame and SMU are out. Joel, one minute on the top.

Joel KlattAnalyst

Miami earned it and I don't have a quarrel with it. Two things travel from what they've done. The front is real and they've got a quarterback who is not going to give the game away. You win a lot of games with those two things.

Louisville's the one I'd sit up for. Going into Oxford and winning by twenty-two is a much harder thing to do than the number fourteen suggests, and if they'd been ranked eighth going in nobody would blink at them being in the top ten this morning.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Ten spots for one Saturday. That's not a poll, that's a group chat.

Joel KlattAnalyst

That's what a poll is, Urban. It's people voting.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

I know what it is. I'm saying it out loud.

Renee CastellanoHost

Brady, Ole Miss down nine.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

Nine is a lot for losing one game to a good team. And I want to point something out, because I've been on both sides of it. The people voting watched about four minutes of that game. They watched a score go final and they moved a name. I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm saying it's September and nobody sat with that ballot very long.

Renee CastellanoHost

Big Ten. Everybody's one and oh except Illinois and Purdue, who are oh and one. USC is two and oh, they played in Week 0.

Joel KlattAnalyst

Michigan is the one people are going to talk about and it's the right thing to talk about. Seventeen to nine over Western Michigan. They won, and they needed all sixty minutes to do it, and that might just be September. It might be something else. We'll know by the end of the month.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Seventeen points.

Joel KlattAnalyst

Seventeen points.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

At home.

Renee CastellanoHost

Moving. Players of the week.

Segment Three · Nine Touchdowns And Two Pick Sixes
Graphic · Players of the Week
National
Mateer, Oklahoma · Maddox, Northwestern
Renee CastellanoHost

National offensive player of the week, Oklahoma quarterback John Mateer. Twenty-eight of thirty-six, three hundred and twenty-three through the air, two passing touchdowns, and then twenty-two carries for two hundred and three yards and seven rushing touchdowns. That is nine total touchdowns in one football game. Brady, you played the position.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

I did, and I want everybody to hear how insane that is. Seven rushing touchdowns is a career for some starters. Seven in an afternoon means his coaching staff made a decision at some point in the second quarter that they were just going to keep doing it, and then they kept doing it, and nobody stopped it.

The part that jumps at me is he took twenty-two carries. That's a running back's day. That's a lot of hits on the guy you can't replace. I'd have loved it at twenty-two and I'd have been sore until Thursday.

Joel KlattAnalyst

It's also a real Heisman event, because the board is going to move on the strength of one Saturday and one number. He's not in the top four this morning. He will be in somebody's top four next week.

Renee CastellanoHost

The board, for the record, is Jeremiah Smith one, Julian Sayin two after six touchdowns, Dante Moore three, Arch Manning four.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

A receiver's still leading it.

Joel KlattAnalyst

A receiver's still leading it and he's the best player in the country.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Then he should win it.

Joel KlattAnalyst

He should. Nobody's arguing with you.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Feels like it.

Renee CastellanoHost

National defensive player of the week, and Big Ten defensive player of the week, Northwestern safety Adrian Maddox. Seven tackles, two interceptions, two pick sixes.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

Two. In a game. From a safety.

Joel KlattAnalyst

The Big Ten offensive one is Nico Iamaleava at UCLA.

Renee CastellanoHost

Anything on that?

Urban MeyerAnalyst

No.

Renee CastellanoHost

Alright.

Segment Four · Fifty-Six To Seven, And What It Buys You
Live · Studio B
Michigan State
MSU 56, Grambling State 7 — 618 yards, 18 tackles for loss
The helmet wall has been reordered again. The green one has moved in from the edge of frame by about a foot and Meyer glances at it before the question is finished.
Renee CastellanoHost

Michigan State opened with fifty-six to seven over Grambling State. Six hundred and eighteen yards, nine point four a play, eighteen tackles for loss, one penalty in the entire game. Their opening quarter was seven-seven and their opponent did not record another first down after that first possession. Coach, first.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

They beat Grambling State.

Renee CastellanoHost

They did.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Then that's my answer.

Renee CastellanoHost

You've got more.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

I've got the same amount I had in August. Hand them a real football team and then we'll all know something. Six hundred yards. Against who?

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

You can only play who's on the schedule.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

And I only have to believe what I've seen.

Renee CastellanoHost

Joel.

Joel KlattAnalyst

I'll take the other side of that. There's stuff on that tape that holds up regardless of who they were playing.

Start with the first drive, because it's the interesting part of the whole afternoon. Grambling's whole offense is option football, and Michigan State handled the option. Three times they handled the actual read. What beat them was misdirection off it. Two big runs to the fullback going against the flow, one of them thirty yards for a score.

And that happens for a specific reason. They were loading the line of scrimmage, they were bringing extra bodies down to take away the pitch and the keep, and the cost of doing that is you have nobody standing at the second level. Misdirection is designed to attack exactly that. So they got the read right and the structure wrong, which for a first-year staff in a first game is about as understandable a mistake as there is.

Renee CastellanoHost

And then?

Joel KlattAnalyst

And then they stopped doing it, and Grambling never got another first down. That's the part I'd write down. Not just that they fixed it, but that they fixed it inside of a quarter, in a first game, with a staff that has never done this together.

One more thing on them. Everybody spent August being told this was a four-two-five defense. They didn't play it. They played three down linemen, they played four, and there were snaps with five and two linebackers behind it, which is a front you basically do not see in this league anymore. Against an option team that's a completely defensible choice, and the point is it was ready in Week 1.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

It's Grambling, Joel.

Joel KlattAnalyst

It is Grambling. I'm telling you what a staff had prepared, which is a separate question from who they had prepared it against.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Every one of these is a separate question with you.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

Let me do the offense, because there's a quarterback thing here I actually like. Redshirt freshman, Leo Hannan, first career start, nineteen of twenty-three for two hundred and fifty and two touchdowns. Eighty-two percent. And he ran it six times for twenty-four and most of those are him keeping a drive alive on third down.

Now, the completion percentage is going to be lower against a team that can cover. Everybody knows that. But the thing you can't fake at any level is when a guy gets rid of it. He was on time. First career start, home crowd, and he was not late. I was late in my first start and I remember it.

Joel KlattAnalyst

The other number is one penalty. That's not opponent-dependent and I'd make more of it than anybody's going to. That's how a team practices.

Renee CastellanoHost

Zero sacks allowed, and the center is a converted six-foot-seven tackle making his first career start at the position.

Joel KlattAnalyst

Which everybody, including me, said was going to be the problem. It wasn't the problem on Saturday. Ask me again when somebody puts a real nose tackle under him.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Somebody will.

Renee CastellanoHost

The fourth quarter got some attention. Alessio Milivojevic, who lost the job in August, comes in with the game gone and goes four of five for a hundred yards and two touchdowns, and the Michigan State sideline came apart for him.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

That's a good locker room. That's a good sign and I don't care what the score was. When the guy who got beat out has the whole bench running down the sideline for him, that tells you something you can't get from a stat sheet. I've been on teams where that doesn't happen.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

It happens everywhere when you're up forty-nine.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

It does not happen everywhere, Urban.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Alright.

Renee CastellanoHost

Nobody from Michigan State won a national or a conference award this week.

Joel KlattAnalyst

No, and they shouldn't have. You get those for what you did it against. Their running back went for a hundred and forty-seven on sixteen carries and that gets you nothing in a week where a guy scored nine touchdowns.

“They beat Grambling State. Then that's my answer.”
Urban Meyer · Big Ten Now
Segment Five · The Quarterback Coming Home
Graphic · Week 2
Saturday, Noon
Eastern Michigan at Michigan State — EMU QB Noah Kim started at MSU in 2023
Renee CastellanoHost

Saturday, Michigan State hosts Eastern Michigan, who are one and one. The Eagles are quarterbacked by Noah Kim, a seventh-year graduate student on an NCAA waiver, and Noah Kim was Michigan State's starting quarterback in twenty twenty-three. Brady.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

Seventh year. I want to start there. Most people who play this sport are done at twenty-two and thinking about the rest of their life, and this guy has been in a locker room for seven straight seasons at three different schools trying to hold onto the same job.

And twenty twenty-three at Michigan State was not a football season. Everybody knows what that was. He was a twenty-one-year-old kid handed a starting job in the middle of an institutional collapse, and he took it and played, and then he left and kept playing.

I'd ask people to be normal about it on Saturday.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

He'll get booed. That's the deal. Everybody in that stadium paid.

Renee CastellanoHost

Coach.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

What. He's the quarterback for the other team. They boo the quarterback for the other team. Nobody's being cruel to him, it's a football game. If he throws for three hundred they'll stop.

Joel KlattAnalyst

There's a piece of this that has nothing to do with feelings at all. Nobody currently on the Michigan State staff was there in twenty twenty-three. Not one. So the opposing quarterback has more institutional memory of that building than the head coach does.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Doesn't help him block anybody.

Joel KlattAnalyst

No. It's just an odd fact.

Renee CastellanoHost

Eastern Michigan, one and one. Chris Creighton's been the head coach there for thirteen seasons.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

Creighton's good. That's a good coach. I'd say that anywhere.

Renee CastellanoHost

That's the nicest thing you've said this morning.

Urban MeyerAnalyst

He earned it. That job was unwinnable and he won at it.

Joel KlattAnalyst

And they've got Michigan kids all over that roster, which matters more on this particular Saturday than it does in October.

Renee CastellanoHost

Anybody want to make a prediction?

Urban MeyerAnalyst

No.

Brady QuinnAnalyst · Former QB

No.

Joel KlattAnalyst

They should win comfortably, and if they don't, then we've got a much more interesting show next week.

Renee CastellanoHost

That's Big Ten Now. Saturday, all day, all over this network. Thanks for being with us.

Music up under the last line. Meyer is already out of his chair and pointing at something on the monitor. Quinn is refolding the stat sheet the other direction. Castellano is thanking somebody in the truck. The helmet wall dissolves into the graphic.
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Dramatization. This is a work of fiction produced for the CFB27 “Nick Mansour era” Michigan State dynasty project. The broadcast, the panel segment, and every quote attributed to Renee Castellano, Urban Meyer, Joel Klatt and Brady Quinn are invented for this fictional universe. Nothing here represents statements by, or the views of, any real person, network, school or institution.