Michigan State Spartans
Spartan Tailgate
Rustin Young is the most interesting name on Nick Mansour’s first depth chart and the one most likely to decide what this offense is allowed to be. The objections are specific and legitimate. So is the case for it. Nobody in the building will know which until somebody plays a nose tackle under him.
Michigan State released its first depth chart of the Nick Mansour era on Monday afternoon. The quarterback is not the news. Leo Hannan has been the presumed starter since spring.
The news sits third from the left on the offensive line. The program has printed a 6-foot-7 offensive tackle at center.
Rustin Young snaps the football Saturday. He also identifies the front and sets the protection, and he has done neither in a live game.
Mansour took the best athlete on his offensive line and moved him to the one position where his hands are on the ball seventy times.
The 28-year-old head coach who never played a down is the argument half this state has been having since December. That argument has not moved in eight months and it will not move Saturday.
Young at center is different. It is a football decision with football costs, and it will be readable on tape by the second series.
One note on the opponent, because it matters later. Grambling State runs an option offense, runs it well, and has given bigger teams trouble on the ground.
Height is an asset at tackle and a tax at center. Start there.
A tackle’s job begins with his feet. He covers ground. He protects an edge fifteen yards from the football, and length out there is a straightforward advantage. Tall tackles are normal. Tall tackles are preferred.
A center’s job begins with his hips. He works in a phone booth. The man across from him is often a 320-pound nose tackle aligned over his head or shaded a half-man to one side.
That defender’s entire assignment is to walk him backward into his own quarterback. A center wins that with pad level. Hips underneath him, shoulder pads below the defender’s, force generated from the ground up.
Leverage goes to whoever is lower at contact. Young has more distance to cover to get there, and he has to stay there while doing three other things at the same time.
That is why centers in this sport tend to be built like fire hydrants. The coaching objection has four parts and every one of them is legitimate.
One: the nose playing under him. A nose tackle who gets his hands inside a tall center’s frame has already won the rep.
Young’s arms keep a rusher off him in space. They do nothing when the fight is under his chest.
The failure is undramatic. A center stood up two yards deep, a pocket collapsing from the middle, and a young quarterback with no room to step into. Quarterbacks who cannot step up start drifting, and drifting is where sacks come from.
Two: snapping while making the calls. The snap is a coordinated motion performed with one hand while the other hand and both feet are already committed to a block.
A half-count late and the guard beside him is blocking air. On top of that, the center identifies the front, declares the Mike, sets the slide and communicates changes until the ball moves.
Young has done the physical part in camp. He has not done it while running the mental part in a stadium at noon. The second skill is the one that goes first.
Three: short yardage. Third-and-1 is a leverage fight settled in six inches of ground.
A center coming out of a high stance has to get down before he can get movement. Displaced backward on that play is a turnover on downs.
Schemes hide a lot of problems. No scheme hides an inability to move a man off the ball when the entire stadium knows the run is coming.
Four: the calls. This is what opposing coaches bring up first and what fans will notice last.
Protection identification is a language, and the man speaking it is supposed to have said it ten thousand times. Young started saying it in April.
Against a four-man front with no movement, that is fine. Against a defense that walks a linebacker down late, shows pressure, backs out and rotates coverage, the center has about a second and a half to be right.
Wrong means a free runner at a first-time starter’s blind side.
One veteran offensive line coach in this league, who has no stake in it and asked not to be named discussing another staff’s personnel, was direct.
“I’m not going to sit here and tell you it can’t work. I’ve seen weirder things work. But you’re asking a kid to learn the hardest communication job on the field and a whole new set of hands in the same August, and his body’s fighting him on the second part. And if it goes bad, it doesn’t go bad quiet. It goes bad in the middle of the pocket on third down. That’s the part I’d worry about.”
Nobody around the league calls the move stupid. Several call it a solution in search of a problem, which is a different criticism and a sharper one.
The argument starts from a premise most people skip. A center is not the fifth-best lineman on an offense.
He touches every snap, makes every call and works in more combination blocks than anybody else up front.
If one lineman is meaningfully more athletic and meaningfully smarter than the other four, the middle is where that buys the most snaps.
At tackle, his athleticism helps on his own rep. At center it helps on his own rep and on the reps of the men beside him.
Young is the best athlete on this line. Nobody disputes that, including the people who dislike the move.
Take a combination block. Center and guard double a three-technique, and one of them has to come off it and climb to a linebacker who is already running.
The lineman who can find and hit a moving target at the second level turns a four-yard run into a nine-yard run. That is the most athletic thing an interior lineman does, and Michigan State put its most athletic lineman where it happens most.
Pass protection cuts the same way, and there the length is an asset rather than a tax.
The center is the free man on a four-man rush more often than anyone else on the line. He slides to help, picks up the late blitzer, closes a stunt. Range matters there. So do long arms.
It also matches what this staff says it believes: design a job around the player rather than filling a slot with whoever is next on the list. Tre Bell at nickel and Jayden Savoury as a move piece came out of the same logic.
Mansour was asked about it twice Tuesday and did not give the version where a coach explains that the young man earned it through hard work.
“Rustin’s the most athletic guy we’ve got up front and he’s one of the two or three smartest people in this building. If I put him at tackle, he’s excellent on about a third of the snaps in a game. At center he’s in almost all of them, the combination, the climb, the slide, the call, all of it. So the question isn’t whether center is harder for him. It obviously is, it’s harder. It’s whether what he’s good at is worth more in the middle than what he gives up. We think it is. We could be wrong and it’d be an expensive thing to be wrong about, which is why we didn’t decide it in June.”
Every word of that argues the ceiling of the arrangement. None of it argues the floor.
A tackle who loses a rep gives up a hit. A center who loses a rep gives up a sack up the middle, a run for no gain, or, if the call was wrong, a free runner nobody blocked.
The position punishes error faster than any spot on the line. That is where this staff chose to run an experiment.
Both sides of this got confident faster than the evidence allows. There is no game yet. There is camp.
The people who like the move will tell you they have watched him do it every day since April. The people who don’t will tell you every August center looks fine in shells, in a period where nobody is allowed to twist him. Both statements are true and neither is evidence.
Saturday is an odd first exam. An option team is not a soft landing for a converted tackle.
Grambling’s front will be smaller than what Michigan State sees in October. That helps Young in the leverage fight and hurts the usefulness of the afternoon as information.
An option offense also changes the shape of a game. Long defensive possessions. Drives that end abruptly. Sudden changes. An offense that goes out cold three or four times in a half.
A center’s calls are the first thing that goes wrong when an offense is out of rhythm.
Three things to watch. Count the snaps that come out low, high or a half-count off. The number will not be zero, and the question is whether it is one or five.
Watch short yardage, if there is any. Watch who is talking before the snap, and whether Young makes a call that the guard next to him amends two seconds later.
A center whose calls get cleaned up by the man beside him is not running the line yet, whatever the chart says.
Ben Murawski, the left tackle, answered the Young question the way linemen answer questions.
“He’s fine. He snaps it, I block the guy in front of me. I don’t know what you want me to say, it’s the same job I had last year. Yeah, he’s tall. He was tall last year too.”
Asked whether the calls had been an adjustment, Murawski said: “Some. Not a lot. We talk more now, that’s all.” Then he looked at the next reporter until somebody changed the subject.
The line as printed, left to right: Murawski, Sharpe, Young, Vincic, Moore.
Murawski at left tackle is the least interesting decision on the chart. Everybody who watched a spring practice had him penciled there.
A first-year staff protecting a first-time starting quarterback needs one thing up front it does not have to think about. That is the thing.
Conner Moore at right tackle is the part that has not been said plainly enough. Michigan State did not move Young inside because it had nobody at tackle. It has Moore. The center decision was available, and the staff took it.
Then the interior, and a fact that predates this chart by six months. The inside of this offensive line is the group the program trusts least.
True when the staff arrived. True in spring. True in August. Nick Sharpe at left guard, Luka Vincic at right guard, and neither settled anything in camp.
The question was never which two. It was whether the group is good enough to let this offense be what it wants to be.
The Young move reads two ways against that, and both readings are live.
Reading one: it is the answer. If the interior cannot win one-on-one, the best fix available in August is to put the most capable body in the middle and let him help the men on either side. A center who handles a nose alone frees a guard. A center who can climb turns a stalemate into a crease.
Reading two: it is evidence of how thin the group is. Nobody moves a starting tackle to center when the depth chart is healthy. Michigan State now has a first-time center and one fewer tackle.
Neither reading has won an argument yet.
The interior of a line decides what an offense is allowed to do, more than any skill player on a roster. If a line cannot displace a tackle on first down, the run game becomes a collection of ways to gain four yards.
If a center needs help with a nose, the protection needs a body, and that body comes off a route. Every help built into a protection is a receiver removed from a concept. The offense narrows on its own.
Grambling is unlikely to expose any of that. An FCS front usually does not carry the interior mass to make the problem visible, and the tape will read better than the situation is.
Notre Dame in three weeks is the exam. Eastern Michigan comes first.
Leo Hannan makes the first start of his career at noon. Redshirt freshman. Alessio Milivojevic is listed behind him.
By every conventional method of picking a quarterback, accuracy, experience, having stabilized a bad offense a year ago, the respect of the room, Milivojevic had the better case.
Mansour picked ceiling. That is a reason nobody can check for eighteen months, which is part of why coaches like giving it.
The decision is settled. What has been built around the kid is the more useful thing, because the structure is visible before a snap.
The premise is narrowing. Formation, motion, personnel and sequencing all point at one job: make the right answer obvious enough that a 19-year-old plays fast rather than correctly and slow.
The ingredients are on the chart. A move piece who forces a defense to declare. A back who has to be accounted for. A line built around a center who is supposed to sort the front.
Each of those takes a decision off the quarterback and hands it to somebody else.
Nick Sheridan, the offensive coordinator, has to make that teachable by Saturday.
“Leo’s problem was never arm talent. It’s the two seconds before the snap and the two after it. So we spent camp cutting down the number of things that can be true. He gets to the line and if we’ve done our job, he’s looking at two answers instead of six. If there are six, that’s on us, that’s not on him. And the center’s a big piece of that. If Rustin’s got the front sorted, Leo’s only got the coverage to sort out. If he hasn’t, Leo’s doing two jobs.”
Hannan’s Wednesday availability was what quarterback availabilities are. Credit to the line twice. A line about not making it bigger than it is. He has been coached and he is good at it.
The one time he sounded 19 came when somebody asked whether he had thought about the first snap. “Yeah. A lot. Like, probably too much.” Then he went back to talking about execution.
The second-most instructive line on this chart is a designation rather than a name.
Jayden Savoury, the redshirt freshman everybody spent August calling the surprise starting tight end, is not listed at tight end. He is listed FB/H-back.
Michigan State carries three actual tight ends: Brennan Paracheck, Eddie Whiting, Carson Gulker. Savoury is not stacked among them. He has his own line on the page.
Staffs are usually careless with these documents. When one bothers to invent a designation, that is a decision somebody made on purpose.
A tight end is a position. He has a home, hand in the dirt next to the tackle, and everything else he does is a deviation from it.
An H-back has no home. He is an assignment that relocates, backfield to slot to the line, and a defense has to change its answer depending on where he stands that snap.
Writing it that way says the moving is the job.
The consequences are practical. He is not being asked to be a base-down in-line blocker against a five-technique, which is the thing a redshirt freshman is worst at.
His run-game work comes at angles. Kicking out an edge from the backfield, inserting through a gap, leading up on a linebacker. Jobs where technique beats mass.
The passing concepts are built off motion. Move him, watch what the defense does about it, and the picture shrinks before the snap. That is a pre-snap read handed to Hannan for free.
It also means the three tight ends have real jobs. If Michigan State wants to be heavy Saturday, Paracheck, Whiting and Gulker are how it gets there.
Against an option team, as a heavy favorite, it may want to be.
Mansour said the label was deliberate and declined to make it sound clever.
“He’s not a finished blocker. He’s going to get put on the ground by a grown man at some point this year and everybody’s going to see it. What he does is make people declare. We can build around what he can’t do yet.”
The risk is obvious. A player who only appears in certain looks is a tell rather than a chess piece, and October defenses find that on tape in forty minutes. An H-back is harder to read that way than a tight end, which may be part of why they wrote it down like that.
No player on this roster is closer to a sure thing than Cam Edwards, and none requires less imagination. Nobody argues about him.
The question is not whether he is good. It is what this offense thinks he is.
There is a version of Saturday where he takes 22 handoffs, sits after the third quarter and the afternoon teaches nothing. Guarantee games invite that, and a first-year head coach protecting a young quarterback is the profile of a man who calls forty runs and lets the clock work.
The more interesting version is whether they use him as a structural problem. Does he split out? Do they motion him and make a defense re-fit?
A back who has to be accounted for in three alignments is doing the same job Savoury is doing, which is shrinking the picture before the snap.
Watch the run scheme, because it is downstream of the interior question. Gap scheme, pulling and angles and moving bodies to the point of attack, hides interior linemen who cannot win straight up.
Wide zone asks a guard to reach a shaded nose and a center to climb, and neither can be faked. Whichever they lean on says what this staff believes about the group in the middle, Young included.
Behind Edwards: Jaziun Patterson, Brandon Tullis, Bryson Williams, Zion Gist. A game like this is the one week all year the fourth back gets carries that count.
Watch pass protection there. A backup who cannot pick up a blitzer in the fourth quarter of a Week 1 game will not play in November no matter how he runs.
At receiver: Crishon McCray, Braylon Collier, KK Smith, Rowan Merlino, Fredrick Moore. The staff did not commit to an order, which is honest and unhelpful.
Collier will play. McCray’s role is slightly clearer, if only because he is also on punt return, and return work travels with trust.
To the defense, where reporting is harder, because Joe Rossi runs a tight room and always has.
A correction to something several outlets, this one included, have had wrong. Dion Crawford is an edge rusher. He is listed at EDGE, first.
That changes how you read the front and how you read the linebacker room.
Michigan State lists seven edges: Crawford, Kenny Soares Jr., Isaac Smith, Kekai Burnett, Anelu Lafaele, Keahnist Thompson, Cal Thrush.
Seven names at a two-man spot is a rotation, not a two-deep. No staff prints that many unless it intends to play most of them.
Edge is where fresh legs convert most directly into production. A rusher on his fourth straight snap is a different player than the same man on his first, and it shows up in the fourth quarter.
A team that can roll five bodies through two spots without a talent cliff has a pass rush in November. Whatever else on this roster is thin, that is not.
It also gives a coordinator options. A 4-2-5 built on simulated pressure needs edges with different skill sets, and a seven-man group probably contains both the man who can drop and the man who only rushes.
Inside them: Ben Roberts, Derrick Simmons, Eli Coenen, Adam Fontana. Against option looks their work is unglamorous. Occupy blockers, keep the linebackers clean, do not get reached.
Nobody notices when they do it. Everybody notices if the dive keeps hitting for six.
The linebacker room is the group this staff trusts most and the one with the clearest floor on the roster: Jordan Hall, Brady Pretzlaff, Cam Stodghill, Dejae White, Caleb Wheatland, Dimari Malone, Chris Piwowarczyk.
Base 4-2-5 puts two of them on the field. Seven names, two spots.
That means rotating rather than choosing, and it means the printed order matters less here than anywhere else on the chart.
Option football is an accounting problem wearing an offense’s clothes. Somebody has the dive, somebody has the quarterback, somebody has the pitch, every snap.
Simple written down. Brutal to execute for four quarters.
The failure is not a missed tackle for four yards. It is one defender taking an extra step toward the quarterback, the dive hitting behind him, and nobody in that gap for forty. Everyone else did his job correctly.
Linebackers are where that gets decided. An option offense attacks their eyes rather than their bodies. It shows them a picture, waits for them to react to the wrong part of it, and runs where they used to be.
Athleticism is what everybody likes about this group. Athleticism is not what Saturday grades.
Saturday grades whether a linebacker can hold one job for four quarters while an offense spends every snap talking him out of it.
Joe Rossi does not do enthusiasm and did not do any this week.
“Everybody wants to talk about what we want to be. This week we don’t get to pick. You line up, you’re right, you tackle. A team that hasn’t played is going to be wrong ten times Saturday. My job is making sure eight of them are wrong the same way so we can fix it Sunday. The ones where a guy freelances because he thinks he sees it, those are the ones that scare me.”
Coverage is the open question and Saturday answers none of it. An option team is not going to run a tight end up the seam to hunt a linebacker. That question rolls into Eastern Michigan and then into Notre Dame.
Piwowarczyk, the walk-on, is listed and will be out there, most likely on special teams.
Tre Bell is listed at nickel. He has his own line and his own position abbreviation.
That is a position change made official on paper, and the clearest evidence that the 4-2-5 talk was structural rather than cosmetic.
Bell played on the boundary. He is a corner. In most defenses the nickel is where a staff puts its fourth-best defensive back, because the job is understood as coverage for a smaller receiver.
In a 4-2-5 it is not that. The fifth defensive back is a run defender about as often as he is a cover player. A third linebacker on early downs, a matchup corner on passing downs.
That combination is hard to find in one person. A man there who can cover but cannot take on a pulling guard will get run at until he quits. A man there who can hit but cannot run with a slot leaves a defense playing ten-on-eleven the moment somebody spreads it out.
The evaluation was that Bell’s tackling and run instincts were being wasted fourteen yards from the football on an island. Nobody outside that building made that call.
It is the same move as Young at center. Take the player whose best traits are underused and put him where they touch more football.
Saturday is a strange first test and a useful one. Option football lives on the perimeter and in the flat, and the fifth defensive back stands in the middle of it.
Bell will be made right or wrong fifteen times: a full afternoon of run fits, almost no coverage.
Four corners: Caleb Brantely, Andrew Brinson IV, Tyran Chappel, Keshawn Williams. Two free safeties, Michael Richard and Deuce Edwards. Three strong safeties: Nikai Martinez, Devin Vaught, Aveon Grose.
That is nine defensive backs plus Bell. It is also the personnel bill a 4-2-5 runs up.
No team plays five defensive backs as its base defense through a November Saturday without ten who are playable. Michigan State can print that many, which is a less-discussed reason the scheme fits this roster.
Against Grambling the safeties are the story. Corners here will spend the afternoon supporting the run and getting blocked by receivers.
The safeties are the ones whose eyes get attacked. A strong safety fitting downhill against an option look arrives late into a mess and has to be right about which mess.
How the staff rotates Martinez, Vaught and Grose by situation will say more about the plan than any front-seven note.
Richard and Edwards at free safety is the smallest room on the chart. Two names, against seven at linebacker and seven at edge. An injury there changes what this defense can do.
Liam Boyd kicks. Rhys Dakin punts. Charles Brantley and Andrew Brinson IV return kicks. Crishon McCray and Brinson return punts.
Brinson on both return units is a workload and a vote of confidence, and he is a listed corner besides.
This is the specific way a four-touchdown favorite has a weird Saturday. A blocked punt. A muffed return. A kickoff out of bounds at the 40.
Special teams disasters do not care about talent gaps, and Michigan State has recent institutional memory of exactly that.
Worth setting this down before Saturday so nobody argues about it Sunday.
Michigan State’s talent will paper over mistakes here, the way talent does against an FCS opponent.
A defensive end takes a bad angle, a safety fits the wrong gap, a converted center loses a rep, and the play goes for six yards instead of sixty. The scoreboard is not the evidence.
The evidence is the count. How often is a Michigan State defender out of his gap and bailed out by somebody else’s athleticism? How many missed tackles in space, especially on the pitch phase? On third-and-2, does the front squeeze and close, or get washed and go hunting?
An FCS option team hitting three runs of 15-plus against a Big Ten defense is a real number regardless of the final score.
Same on offense, and this is where the Young question gets its first partial answer.
Count the pre-snap penalties. Count the snaps that are not clean. Count the times a protection gets sorted late and Hannan has to move off his spot before he wants to.
Interior lines that are unsure of themselves hold. Lines still learning a communicator jump. Six of those against Grambling is not noise.
Those errors transfer. A blown fit against an option team is the same blown fit against Notre Dame’s zone read, and in South Bend the man carrying the football runs 4.4.
One structural note to close on. Mansour calls the offense and the defense.
Every game has a stretch where the offense comes off needing a quarterback conversation while the defense goes on needing a front adjustment. Those are the same twenty seconds.
Sheridan owns the quarterback. Rossi owns the front. That division of labor is what keeps the arrangement defensible on paper, and it has never been run live.
The failure modes are mundane. A personnel group on the field late. A call arriving with eight seconds on the play clock. A timeout burned because twelve men were on the grass.
None of that is scheme. All of it is operations, and operations is the specific kind of embarrassing this fan base has seen before.
Nobody learns whether Michigan State was right about anything Saturday. Not about Hannan, not about Bell, not about the 6-foot-7 man snapping the football.
He will probably have an acceptable afternoon against a front that is not built to punish him, and it will settle nothing in either direction.
What is available is smaller. Can eleven of them line up. Can the calls get in. Can a quarterback play a competent adult game. Can a light defense stay in its gaps against a scheme designed to pull it out of them.
Grambling State at Michigan State, noon ET Saturday, Big Ten Network. No injuries, suspensions or role changes were reported.